Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Five

[Shinji Ikari]

Finally I have some of this on order after not being able to get hold of it for over a year. ^ Ditto on needing to learn to pace myself lol, I wasted my last batch taking megadoses when I already had a tolerance. I hope it doesn’t drop off the map for another year this time. I can always get hold of shrooms but they just aren’t the same.

 

[cosmic charlie]

It is better than Mushrooms in many ways, tho i love both of those substances quite a bit. Find the visuals of Psilacetin to just be on a whole other level and be very similar to those of DMT. The second portion of the trip when you are about halfway it turns into some of the purest euphoria you can imagine. I always get an afterglow from it that is just magical, like the world is just the most beautiful thing ever.

Its a remarkable antidepressant. The comeup on large doses can be really intense tho and it can rattle you a bit but that always flips around into bliss for me. Mushrooms are great to but they sometimes have a bodyload that comes with them i just dont get from 4-AcO, and i assumes that comes down to the fact you are consuming a pure compound and not the actual Mushrooms.

 

[Dr Mamba]

I didn't know it was available again (euro speaker, guess its canadian stuff :/ ), may have a look to recall old RC trips.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Its available in the US right now also, not very cheap but actually less than most of the Canadian vendors. Man do i miss the years when i was buying it in bulk from the Chinese. Id get 5g bags for less than the cost of two grams from these guys. And when me and my friend would go in together on bigger batches it was stupid cheap.

Id had so much 4-AcO i was literally giving it away as a gift when i would do trades/etc with people for other stuff. And those batches were incredible purity also, pure white. Id had these two 5 dram amber vials in my freezer filled to the max i didnt even touch, and like three 1 dram vials i would eat and trade off.

Then when Covid happened and i lost my job and had to wait months for unemployment i sold off my entire RC Collection for the most part, all sorts of 2C-x, 4-Subs, Empathogens and Opioids. Deeply regret it to this day. Tho i have built a new one that is looking mighty fine.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Then when Covid happened and i lost my job and had to wait months for unemployment i sold off my entire RC Collection for the most part, all sorts of 2C-x, 4-Subs, Empathogens and Opioids. Deeply regret it to this day. Tho i have built a new one that is looking mighty fine.

Tragic stuff, but food and a roof is more important than drugs so you made the right call. Collections can always be rebuilt.

So happy to have this chemical in my possession again. Unfortunately i could only get pre-filled gelcaps which is annoying because you always lose a mg or two to the inside of the capsule when you empty them out, but I’ve set the emptied caps aside for microdosing so nothing will go to waste.

 

[keseyhitchens]

Ill be getting some in a couple weeks and will post my experience with it.

It’s available in the US right now also, not very cheap but actually less than most of the Canadian vendors. Man do i miss the years when i was buying it in bulk from the Chinese. Id get 5g bags for less than the cost of two grams from these guys. And when me and my friend would go in together on bigger batches it was stupid cheap.

Id had so much 4-AcO i was literally giving it away as a gift when i would do trades/etc with people for other stuff. And those batches were incredible purity also, pure white. Id had these two 5 dram amber vials in my freezer filled to the max i didnt even touch, and like three 1 dram vials i would eat and trade off.

Then when Covid happened and i lost my job and had to wait months for unemployment i sold off my entire RC Collection for the most part, all sorts of 2C-x, 4-Subs, Empathogens and Opioids. Deeply regret it to this day. Tho i have built a new one that is looking mighty fine.

I’ve only heard of the tramadol analogue, is there other opiate analogues?

 

[yaesutom]

I recently tried some 4-pro-dmt I had for a while and only just barely tested before. The trip was definitely different the colors were different, not as smooth and happy as the aco. I really do think the 4-x attachment affects the experience sometimes a lot sometimes only a little of a difference.

AcO is the best, better than shrooms/HO for me. 4-Pro altered the colors which was cool, like more browns and contours of red, more plastic looking vision. Closed eye visuals were "gooey, weird" just way below AcO visuals which are happy and more beautiful.

Also 4-pro didn't feel as "smooth" or "fluid" which is one of the best effects of 4-aco-dmt. Vision goes up like a expensive computer display.. 60hz to 144hz type of thing. Motion smoothness.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I've taken so... so damned much of this substance, due to somehow ending up with about 50g of it back in 2021. I've managed to get rid of, trade, etc. about 15g of it and eaten countless doses. Every week when I have my first night (or two) off work I'll trip on 10-30mg and I have watched 2 dram vial after vial disappear into myself over the past year. Probably ate about 3-4 grams myself just in 2023-24.

I find it a jarring substance. Maybe I'm not as happy with psychedelics ever since my spastic colon popped up in 2019 but now I have to take at least 1mg of alprazolam and a few cocktails to get through the first two hours in comfort. Which, of course, turns it rather hedonistic and likely contributed to many a night that I upped to 40-50mg doses. And now I like to throw in kratom but in my opinion the psilacetin overpowers kratom pretty heavily in the first two hours, by the time you take enough kratom to fight off the jitters, you end up almost sick from the kratom and have to force yourself to eat to shake off the nausea and it's a lot of give and take. I mean the two combine great at times, psilacetin has a strong body component and when I was still able to use cannabis and kratom both, the body high was unreal. Reminded me of doing oxycodone with lsd a lot. Sometimes it would get so sedating I couldn't keep my eyes open and I'd go into these deep, deep closed eye visual journeys and just listen to music.

It's a great drug for film viewing/analyses if you throw in the booze/benzos/kratom imo. That's mostly how I spend my trips, just watching several films and generally redosing partway through since I have no shortage.

Sometimes there's a voice/spirit that inhabits psilacetin; it has many voices, I am not sure if it is an entity or different parts of my psyche connecting. I dunno. I think there's a reason I fear taking it without booze and benzos.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Sometimes there's a voice/spirit that inhabits psilacetin; it has many voices, I am not sure if it is an entity or different parts of my psyche connecting. I dunno. I think there's a reason I fear taking it without booze and benzos.

This is what I should do. I've had some personal bullshit going on and the last few times I've taken 4-aco I've just ended up crying for 4 hours. Don't get me wrong it's cathartic but sometimes it would be nice to just chill but the molecule insists on turning it into therapy.

Out of curiosity if it's not too nosy how did you end up lucking into 5 grand worth of psilocetin?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Out of curiosity if it's not too nosy how did you end up lucking into 5 grand worth of psilocetin?

Eh, when I bought it, it wasn't $5k worth. It was much cheaper and the bulk supplier was charging far less than $100 a gram. I had plans for most of that 50g but ended up not using it for said plans and changed towns and lifestyle so now I'm in a drug-testing job that pays well but most definitely comes down harsh on drug use, so I don't hang out with people who use any drugs and well... here I am, holding obscene amounts of psychedelics and using my own body to be rid of them lol. I can use alprazolam only because I have a constant prescription for my spastic colon and then I'll use less than I'm prescribed most days so once a week I can up my dose for a day or two when I decide to trip.

This is what I should do. I've had some personal bullshit going on and the last few times I've taken 4-aco I've just ended up crying for 4 hours. Don't get me wrong it's cathartic but sometimes it would be nice to just chill but the molecule insists on turning it into therapy.

Oh I feel you man, it's a hardcore psych, much harsher than lsd ever was. I could be on five strong tabs of acid and some weed and never feel as introspective as psilacetin makes me. A month or two ago work was stressing me and I tripped and I spent several hours just sobbing and listening to music and while it felt healing I don't really enjoy it. The booze adds the pleasure aspect and the benzos and kratom help take away the anxiety and the "spirit" of psilacetin I'll call it. Said spirit can really throw you around, which can be good but I've had my fair share of trips in life... and after hundreds and hundreds of trips I got real sick of being a ragdoll tossed around by the psychs and I had always enjoyed a bit of booze or opioids on any psych and that turned into me figuring out that what I needed was some much required anxiety release on trips.

 

[JackARoe]

Mushrooms can make me cry too. Actually had 2C-B do the same once as I was processing a few things. One of my crying mushroom trips was a day I had off some years back. Took them in the morning on this beautiful sunny day. But ended up in the corner of my room crying over a few hurts. So much for rock n roll that day. More like therapy.

I do know 4-ACO-DMT is jarring on the come up. Just the first hour. Feels like a rocket trying to rip out of the atmosphere. Putting resistance to that would make it worse for me. But I can see it smoothed out with something too. Once past the come up it feels great as it unfolds. But I do know CG you have done your fair share of 4-ACO over the years. You have a lot of posts on the topic. 50 gr total? Whew even if half was given away.

But I also get it, I need more drugs to take the drugs I take.