That is very different from my experience. N2O pretty much just disconnects me from my body for a few moments. It's kind of fun and strangely addictive, but if I do too much in one session, I get a very eerie and icky after-effect in which I felt slightly insane and lasting some hours. I actually had this problem after the dentist when I was young. Actually, the last time I had N2O at the dentist, I actually had a "hole" experience, in which I went flying through outer space toward heaven. I was 18 at the time, and I sat in my car in the parking lot for about half an hour afterwards because it took me that long to feel like my survival instinct was properly intact. This experience was a big inspiration for me to seek out psychedelic drugs, starting with DMT, but I never experienced anything else like it nor have I really sought out dissociatives.
I think I can understand what you're talking about with this, but I only ever found these feelings enjoyable. I've only ever used it while safe alone at home, so I never had to worry about being able to drive home or being in public around "normies" or anything.
I will say that one of the reasons I don't really use nitrous oxide or other dissociatives anymore is because I'm afraid of them pushing me into an episode. I have had some past experiences like that where in retrospect I can say that nitrous oxide at the time didn't really seem to... help.
I only ever use nitrous oxide at what you could call a "hole" level though. If I don't go completely into that place, I generally just consider it an unsuccessful usage attempt. I basically never would have less than eight chargers in my balloon, although again it's been years since I actually used it regularly now, and mostly at all. I do consider it to have been a meaningful stepping stone on my path to being where I am now, both with drugs and otherwise....
Dissociatives in general I think are some of the most phenomenologically interesting drugs, although for what it's worth, almost any time someone describes something that reminds me of things I have experienced while insane without drugs, it's from a dissociative experience. Make of that what you will.
Mmm. Back when I used to eat onion, garlic, and large amounts of chile pepper, I would happily eat it all the time. Mexican, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Indian, African and Ethiopian, etc. all found their way to my palette while on psychedelics, in addition to plenty of late night diner visits. Sadly I can't eat much of that anymore because my IBS got so bad. Onion or garlic, even in small amounts, became reliable triggers of horrid symptoms.
The good news is that my GI system seems to be doing fine with psychedelics. In fact, I think they are helping to treat it as with my myriad of other functional / auto-immune problems. I'm trying to not get my hopes up and focus on long-term healing, but if I can heal my GI system, I may be able to eat onion, garlic, and larger amounts of chile again. Yum yum yum! I'll still probably be COVID shy, but that's what take out is for. And then I don't worry about offending anyone if I appear to orgasm from tasting a curry.
That is unfortunate, but I hope you're able to get that GI healing as well.
I've been worried about similar problems lately as well, I stopped eating that much spicy food for a while and I think I need to start reintroducing it to my system to build up my tolerance again. Perhaps taking more psychedelics would help me with that as well....
I do have a thing about garlic that has scared me away from it for a long time. One night after eating a bunch of garlic parmesan chicken wings I discovered this.... It literally felt like I was going to black out from the stomach pain and I couldn't touch any other food for the rest of the night despite my friend taking me to a new restaurant he wanted me to try. I even feel weird trying cannabis strains with 'garlic' in their name now, lol. That's how much I've become instinctively wired to avoid it. Perhaps one day I can heal this for myself too though.
I was only half serious, but you have given me a lot to think about. I could discuss this in much more depth but that would not really be on-topic here. At times, I have not been at all shy to express my pleasure. I mean, I don't really do quiet sex, so if a window is open or I'm in a tent, then everyone around is going to know what me and my partner are up to. This is most especially so if my partner and I are tripping, in which it can go on for hours. At times, I've felt it to be my duty to raise awareness of what's possible in terms of ecstatic pleasure. Few people realize their true potential to experience pleasure, so they don't know what to strive for. They need inspiration! Of course I doubt most of the others saw it that way, but I really didn't care at the time.
Understandable lol. Well, now you've got a new way to share the news.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm human too and I understand feeling embarrassed to be suddenly caught supposedly enjoying yourself too much by someone's standards in public or something. But in general, I don't hold back my having a good time if I can avoid it, especially not for something as simple yet special as enjoying a meal. Why not enjoy every single moment of every single day we have on this planet to the fullest extent we can possibly achieve?
In reference to the previous quote of yours here that I have responded, I have actually gotten an 'orgasm-like' level of enjoyment out of food before too, heh. Kind of a... head-wavey, lost-in-pleasure, "Mm... Mmmm... MMMM!!" Made me realize that some people aren't just being expressive when they react to food that way lol. Sometimes things really just do taste that damn good, and again, why not enjoy it when they do?
That happened to me once too when smelling a strain of cannabis, haha. I could literally see flower imagery floating out of me from the pure, orgasmic release of how fucking good it smelled. Then I spent the next couple of weeks smelling every strain like a freak trying to make it happen again, sadly it didn't. I was hoping it was going to permanently open up my neural pathways and make smelling cannabis like human catnip for me. I guess sometimes cannabis just really can smell that good.
For what it's worth, this is actually one of the reasons I just kind of instinctively run with my natural altered states a lot of the time.... Well, more learned than instinctive, but it's become like second nature. I just love experiencing life too much, and my episodes take me to heights that nothing else does, and then afterwards I feel like I'm more easily able to reach similar heights from other stimuli in my life than I was able to otherwise, which is also part of the reason I started liking psychedelics and such in the first place as they do something similar for me too, although not to quite the same level (although to the highest level I had experienced back when I first started using them, hence why I fell in love with them). The more I can learn to let go, the better.
*cough* Not that I think people should necessarily take my advice on how to handle things like manic psychosis. But that's definitely how they've gone for me and is a big part of why they're so addictive to me now. There's something to be said about being able to go all the way without fear and express your ecstasy regardless of how you achieve it.
Perhaps the deleriant-like effect arises from the stimulant action. Maybe it induces a state close to stimulant psychosis together with the 5ht2a psychedelic aspect. Perhaps?
Anyway I won't take your suggestion. In fact, I doubt I'll take MDMA again. Even a "normal" dose feels toxic to me in the days following.
I definitely do think it feels like that is happening even if there's even more to the explanation than that too. It's an incredibly unique and fascinating state, but yeah, probably best avoided by people who are actually trying to use drugs in safe and healthy way. Just something I managed to get a glimpse into in my more reckless days.
