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ineedhelp!

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I just found out that I am pregnant, after being told for years I could not bear children. I do want to have the child, but I am very concerned about my opiate addiction. I have been using oxys and other painkillers on the reg for several years and I am physically addicted, so there will def be a period of withdrawal I will have to go through. What would be the best thing for me to do? I obviously want to care for myself and the baby. Would it be best to slowly taper myself down(which I have already started) or just go "cold turkey". I have tried to do a search, but there just doesnt seem to be a lot of info out there. I did find some links on here, but most seem to be broken links. Any advice at all will be helpful. I just found out on WEd, Im about 4-5 weeks along and do not see a DR for a couple more days, so Im really anxious for a response.
Thanks!
 
I think you should speak to a doctor as soon as possible. There are ways of tapering during pregnancy that can reduce the possible harms to your baby, but definately don't go cold turkey. It's a pretty huge physical strain and I've known some women who've lost their babies doing this.

Sometimes it's better to switch to methadone during pregnancy, just so your habit can be stabilised. Those babies who do display some methadone withdrawl symptoms can be easily tapered with oral morphine.

I think that you need to find yourself a good doctor who is experienced in working with women who use opiates. These are complex decisions, and only you can decide which path is best. But, you've got to be fully informed, which is why I strongly recommend seeing a doctor.

You're not the first to go through this and it can be a difficult time. Try not to let the doctor push something that you really don't want. Doctors generally will prefer to use methadone, but this might not be what's best for you. You do have options and you deserve to know about all the pros and cons.

I found this which gives a good overview of your options.


Opiates

Regular use of illicit opiates endangers the health of the woman and her foetus through continual change in blood heroin levels, exposure to a diverse range of drugs and contaminants, and infections consequent upon injecting drug use. Due to lifestyle factors associated with opiate dependency, pregnant women in this population do not usually have adequate nutrition, necessary rest or sufficient antenatal care.

Health risks of taking opiates during pregnancy

General medical risks associated with injecting drug use that may affect the health and development of the foetus:

* HIV
* hepatitis B and hepatitis C
* endocarditis
* malnutrition
* anaemia
* sexually transmitted diseases.

Obstetric complications

* Increased risk of miscarriage
* Increased risk of intrauterine growth retardation
* Increased risk of other obstetric complications – placental insufficiency, foetal distress, intrauterine death
* Risk of physical dependence in the foetus and subsequent withdrawal in the neonate (known as Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome)
* Opiate withdrawal or detoxification during pregnancy may induce abortion, or premature labour/foetal distress particularly before the 14th week or after the 32nd week respectively. If withdrawal is to be attempted it ideally should be undertaken between the 14th and 32nd weeks under close supervision.

Opiate management options for pregnant drug-dependent women

Opiate-dependent women generally have two management options:

* reduce opiate intake independently or attempt detoxification. Such a task is enormously difficult and results in many users returning to opiate use. Constantly changing states of intoxication and withdrawal can stress the foetus, particularly in the first and third trimesters
* enrol in a methadone maintenance program.

Advantages of methadone maintenance programs

* It provides the woman with a daily dose of methadone which eliminates the fluctuating heroin blood levels experienced by mother and foetus during illicit opiate use.
* Women in methadone maintenance programs tend to have longer pregnancies, fewer obstetrical complications and infants who are larger for their gestational age than similar populations not in treatment (Giles et al., 1989).
* Methadone maintenance programs dramatically reduce the possibility of foetal exposure to unknown drugs and contaminants.
* Enrolment in methadone maintenance programs may provide the woman with sufficient antenatal care and parenting education and support. This is important for a population who are often highly stigmatised and unsupported.

Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome (NAS)

* Many infants born to methadone-maintained women will experience some form of withdrawal, usually within 72 hours of birth.
* Such withdrawal is characterised by agitation, irritability, or by vomiting, diarrhoea or convulsions in extremely severe cases.
* This abstinence syndrome tends to respond well to morphine or phenobarbitone.
* Women who are stable on methadone maintenance programs should be encouraged to breastfeed. The amount of methadone in breast milk is minute and unlikely to harm the infant in the first three to six months of life. When breastfeeding is ceasing, the infant must be weaned slowly as there is a risk of withdrawal.

Handbook for Medical Practitioners and other Health Care Workers on Alcohol and other Drug Problems.


Good luck with all this. :)
 
I know it can be difficult to front up to doctors, pregnant and addicted to opiates, but if you go there and are upfront and honest about your problem and your desire to minimise the harm you are doing, doctors should be really kind and helpful.

Any doctor who is rude is not worth your time.
 
Flexistentialist offers excellent advice here, definitely be honest and upfront about it to your doctor. Many mothers have delivered healthy babies while on supervised amounts of buperenorphine, methadone and other opiates, but the doctor has to know about it.

Please note that ABRUPT withdrawal can lead to miscarriage. Stop any other drug use if you use anything like cannabis, cocaine etc. You might also contact the following and get as much info as you can:-


You dont say which country you are from so here's a general list of helpful agencies

oh and contact any drug agencies near you who offer confidential advice

http://www.methadone.org/

http://www.highway61.com/Top/Health/Addictions/Substance_Abuse/Methadone_Maintenance

http://www.heroin-detox.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1343

(above site is down today, but many ppl here who will offer help and guidance)

http://www.health.gov.au/pubs/drug/alc_hand/alc_c12.htm#alcohol hbk ch12 SPECIAL opiates

good luck and let us know how you are getting on. my partner is expecting our first child in december, though she isnt addicted to anything i am on methadone and have been for a long time, i know its not the same as the position you are in but it still bothers me and i want to get off it now i am gonna be a father.
 
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thanks for the info and help.
i have been on suboxone before, maybe that would be an option again, I will have to do more research and talk with the DR this week!
 
There is not enough information about the use of suboxone in pregnancy to indicate the safety during pregnancy. There is evidence in animal studies that there is an increased risk of miscarrage, neonatal withdrawal and increases in neonatal mortalitiy.
I would suspect the suboxone option is not really an option.

Good luck :)
 
wow.......

I really think you need too tell the doctor your situation, QUIT THE DRUGS!!! i know easier said than done but think about the child,
insensitive comments removed - I think it's quite obvious she is thinking very carefully about what is best for the child
 
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It's obvious ineedhelp! has found herself in a totally unexpected situation. This is a highly sensitive issue and I will not tolerate any posts that are anything less than helpful and supportive.

Now back to the thread topic...
 
Your Dr should be able to refer you to an obstetrician who specialises in looking after women with opiate addiction. In my country, there are free clinics at the large womens hospitals - not sure what is available where you are, but your Dr should know.

All the best with this - I am pregnant myself and I know what it is like to fret that things you do or have done may impact on the health of your child.
 
Best wishes through this. I admire your sense of courage and responsability in this issue.

Please let us know how you are doing. It must be very frightening. I know when my daughter was born(I was clean at the time-but you still wonder) I was so relieved she was a perfect little doll.

It was a life altering experience. I had the misfortune of having a stillborn son a few years prior(non-drug related). I sincerely wish you well.
 
I talked to my lecturer about this- we're studying pregnancy at the moment- and she said that there's usually lots of clinics for pregnant women who are addicted to substances. They're usually free or low cost, and can provide medical care and/or support.

Good luck!
 
I went back to the DR today for a consultation with an actual Doc, he has refered me to someone who specializes in this area. He tells me I should be just fine, esp since I have already been tapering myself down from the very high doses I was at. As far as other drugs go Im pretty good to go on those, I actually had given up my other bad vise about 7-10 days before the day that I GOT pregnant, how lucky is that!!!
Thanks again for the help and encouragement and I will keep ya posted!
 
It's great that you're getting care and help to get off the opiates, hope everything else goes well too.

The lecturer also said that it was really fantastic to hear that you were looking for ways to minimise the impact of your problem for your baby, and that it's always good to see people trying their best to overcome problems.

Are you planning to keep the baby? I suppose if you believed you were infertile you hadn't really planned on having children, but do you want a child?

Good luck!
 
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Shitty situation. I think highly of your attitude regarding this matter and I hope things work out for the best. Good luck.

ditto......Your doing good so far!:)
 
thanks you guys, all the words of encouragement really mean alot!
Somewhere in me I have always wanted a child. At this point, even though I am still currently "strung out" I feel this child will ultimatly help save my life. I have always lived in the here and now, not caring about any consequences, not even really caring whether I lived or died, but I actually feel really good about the positive changes Im going to be doing to help myself and this baby!
 
Now would be a good time to buy a large bottle of prenatal vitamins, and start taking them religiously every day. These days they recommend, at a minimum, folic acid/folate supplementation of 400mcg per day for all pregnant women, so look for a formula with at least that amount of folate. Folate, if taken early enough can prevent neural tube problems in the child. I'm guessing your nutritional status may not have been too good before the pregnancy, so the other vitamins and minerals will be helpful too. One like Blackmore's is a good formula - it is about $20 for a bottle of 50 or so - well worth it! You need to eat plenty of foods containing iron and calcium too - if you're like me you might find yourself craving yogurt, which made getting calcium pretty easy.:)

You can find lots of info on prenatal nutrition on the internet, and from your local womens hospital. All the best.
 
Just speak to your doctor immediatly....inform them and find out exactly what to do.


Putting an unborn child's life at risk is so touchy to even mess around.


Everything will work out fine, if you go see them for advice directly. They will know how to help you handle this in the best possible way, its what they do :)


Good luck to you, and congrats.
 
So I have seen 2 DRs now, my ob DR which sent me to a Neonatal Internal Specialist. My OB DR and I talked about alternatives to my Oxy use(which I have dramatically reduced) such as Methadone, both of us agreed that it may be better to maybe cut down to a "milder" opiate, such as Darvon or something along those lines. He wanted to first have me see the specialist to get his advice. The specialist suggests I go back to Suboxone or go to Methadone. At this point IM only taking 20-40(more like 25-30) a day, I was taking 100 plus(basically as much as I could possibly get in a day). Is it unreasonable that I would rather take a lighter opiate(such as 5 MG OXY IR) rather than go to Suboxone or Methadone?
Im going to go back and see the OB this week, the Specialist is writing me a nice letter of recommendation for me to seek rehab for the Methadone or the Sub. I understand his concerns, but me going into a clinic is a financial impossibility and I dont know that I can see myself making it to the Methadone clinic everyday, since it is an hour away from where I live.
Opinions???
Advice???
 
If you think that you'll be able to cut your usage down gradually on the oxy, I think it'd be fine- no more or less harmful than methadone/suboxone or whatever. The only problem is if you become tempted to use more.

Some counselling or somesuch would probably be useful, particularly once you're off the oxy completely, to help you *stay* off them.

Again, good luck!
 
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