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bird.brain said:
People got nailed to crosses. There were slaves. People were racist. There was incest. People murdered their family members. It was, by all accounts, a pretty fucking horrible time.
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This is not also present day?
It's all in the now of things, maybe.
There are links that are unbroken and may possibly remain so, imo. Just guessing as I know jack shit about anything I find.
 
It's was supposed to f with you. Still even that movie can't do justice what Christ really went through.
 
@sonicwhite

I am not convinced of the accuracy of the Christ story in the New Testament. The gospels contradict each other. The apocryphal gospels contradict each other. I've asked more than a dozen priests (or ex-priests, some of them) about this and they always pretty much say that the overlap is where the truth lies... but, honestly, that never filled me with much hope.

According to most historians (who are not working for the church) it is unlikely that Jesus was tortured as described in the Bible.

I think there probably was a Jesus. Although I'm not 100% certain of that, considering how well the Jesus story fits into the Horus template... and (people usually contest this but its true) the almost complete lack of historical record of a holy man named Jesus that was crucified. The Romans kept records and there were numerous historians at the time.

Most religions (maybe all of them) were created out of drugs. Jesus went somewhere (maybe India) and tripped out *probably on mushrooms* and learnt about spirituality, then - determined to do the right thing - he brought those ideas back home and started preaching. This created a mini psychedelic revolution, but without the drugs. That's what religion is. It is someone taking for granted a divine experience as described by someone else rather than experiencing it directly.

Consumed in sufficient quantities (when properly prepared) Amanita Muscaria can cause vivid near death experiences. During these experiences you witness the birth/creation of the universe. You experienced death and rebirth. And, you feel a distinct presence. Unlike other drugs breakthrough trips are always the same more or less because it isn't the drug. The drug induces the death experience. I've had a lot of Muscaria. The experience is so extraordinary - infinitely more terrifying and beautiful than DMT - that I have to assume it is God. It is so far beyond our comprehension. In the face of it, I am absolutely convinced. But, is that the trick?

After what happened to Jesus and Christianity, I'm hesitant to preach. I'm hesitant to even believe in God.

Amanita Muscaria is the most extraordinary thing on the planet. It grows everywhere. People walk past them all the time and they have no idea. I do not recommend consuming it unless you're a full-blown psychonaut. And, even then, I don't recommend it.

I don't think we're supposed to look behind that curtain.

I think Christianity has done more good than harm, but the same can't be said for Islam which may not have existed without Christianity. I suppose that's unfair. I just think its sad cause Jesus was trying to teach the values of the psychedelic movement (of the 1960's) to people in the middle east 2000 years ago. It was basically a suicide mission... and now - 2000 years later - the message and the story is so distorted. He was all about love and we worship gruesome statues of a man nailed to a cross. Something has been lost in translation.
 
@Lil'LinaptkSix

This is not also present day?
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It's not nearly as hard as it used to be. There was no welfare. No insurance. No electricity. No plumbing. As for crime rates, it's pretty difficult to make an accurate comparison. Population density plays a major influence. You can't really compare small villages to modern cities. It seems pretty obvious to me, though, that you could get away with murder back then. They didn't have any forensics. I'd be surprised if they even had police. Same with rape/incest. There weren't safeguards to protect vulnerable people. Men had too much power in the family unit. This has been getting better all the time. We are in a better place than we were in the 1950s.

 
bird.brain said:
@sonicwhite


I think Christianity has done more good than harm, but the same can't be said for Islam which may not have existed without Christianity. I suppose that's unfair. I just think its sad cause Jesus was trying to teach the values of the psychedelic movement (of the 1960's) to people in the middle east 2000 years ago. It was basically a suicide mission... and now - 2000 years later - the message and the story is so distorted. He was all about love and we worship gruesome statues of a man nailed to a cross. Something has been lost in translation.
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I'm not refuting anything you posted, however I am curious to know what you think the outcome would be now with "modern man".

Would it it be different, and if so how?
 
I'm not refuting anything you posted, however I am curious to know what you think the outcome would be now with "modern man".

Would it it be different, and if so how?
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I didn't understand the question at first. I didn't mean to focus on the middle east. The time - 2000 years ago - is more significant than the location, I think... but - you're right - location is more significant now. (If that makes sense?)

It would still be a suicide mission in the middle east, I think. Probably more so, actually.

We don't need more religions, though. Even if religions make a positive impact, eventually they retard social progress. Because holy texts are considered "the word of God" by believers - and since God is infallible - it has to remain unchanged. The rest of society evolves while religion stays the same until it becomes outdated and archaic.

Religion is man taking ownership of God.
 
He saves who He saves, and He condemns who He condemns, I will have mercy on whom I have mercy I will show compassion on whom I show compassion. The reason you don't believe the Oracles of the Prophets or the Holy Bible itself is because you cannot hear Him. Like I said He is Sovereign and chooses whomever He wants to save. And let the sinner go to hell. Still God is just. Just because some have obtained something the world calls foolishness. It's just foolishness to them that are perishing. The Cross tho is Our Power unto Salvation. As this world shifts to science as it's god. No wonder men's hearts will fail because what has come upon the earth. I don't mean to offend. I hope someone out there will read this and say I want what he's got. When you hear that or an impending separation from God forever conviction I would highly suggest you not resist. I did for a whole year. Finally God got my attention. It was so beautiful to be nourished back to health. Trust me at the time I was a mess. Jesus said don't throw your pearls to swine, for they will trample them then tear you to pieces. So I leave it there. Take it however way.
 
The Holy Bible is just a book. God is not more present in a page of the Bible than a rose petal.

Religion inevitably becomes the false idol it tries to warn itself about.

You said the reason I do not believe the prophetic nature of these Biblical stories is because of a disconnect with God. I disagree. I have a direct connection to God. We all do, in the same way we all have lungs and a heart.

Christianity has no ownership over God. There are infinite avenues to the Divine. If you believe Christianity is the only one, that is IMO an obstacle you should aspire to overcome.

Jesus was just a man. A great man, perhaps, but flesh and blood none the less.

Egyptian pharoah used to be seen as God, too.

This is - all - just graven imagery.

I'm not offended and I mean no offence.

@sonicwhite
 
It's ok, I get it I truly do. In the OT God was very angry at His ppl. They would mingle with other tribes which he forbid. In Egypt God said I raised you up thru my ppl so my might display my power within you. I'm not some zealous hypocrite I have many skeletons. I however do know that there is a dimension far far real then this dimension we live in. Hell is a reality. It was meant for Satan and his angels. To be completely cut off. Separation from all that has do with life. To be non negotiable. Forever. I felt it. I know. I've also seem a world where it was made up of different stuff. My mind had no comprehension of their true beauty and perfection. I was sampled this here and there. Like Saul who turned into Paul on the road to Damascus. He had an abnormal birth. The 12th Apostle chosen by God. Jesus said to the ppl of Israel, you can look up and see its about to rain but you cannot tell the times they where in. Jesus said I'll come at an hour you do not expect me. Well He did and they crucified Him, but God was working through sinful man to accomplish what had to be done. That was to save any and all who would believe in Him. Trust me back in there days there where no mushrooms to eat. No psychedelics or anything. Their whole type of thinking was to be morally right with God. What the Law could not accomplish He gave me a new mind and heart. I will not rest unless I get these simple truth outs. Today we know the seven day planner yet we cannot see the signs of the time.


We have a madman in Russia God is using Sovereignly as a Judgement. Covid was just a speed bump, now God has to turn the heat up. I don't mean offend. I just want you with me in Heaven. I don't want anyone to experience the Hell I've been thru. No amount of medication can ease these symptoms. It is by God alone I haven't blown my head off.

If you're going to do drug, use responsible. If you can hear Christ. It's not like I'm talking to you but Himself. Words will be more enhanced. You'll have a greater craving for the truth.


We can say all the excuses we want. That doesn't negate the fact one day you'll die. The most common denominator in life. I would rather make sure if I die I die knowing I did all I could to help ppl. Not destroy lives.
 
I have been to that place. I am aware of the dimension that you speak.

sonicwhite said:
Trust me back in there days there where no mushrooms to eat. No psychedelics or anything.
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I'm not going to trust you on that because I've done my own personal research and there is clearly a pretty large amount of imagery of psychedelic mushrooms being consumed in ancient times. Jesus disappeared for a large chunk of time. Then - when he came back - he was a prophet. We don't know what happened to him, but he strikes me as someone who has had a divine experience. I could be wrong. I don't really care, either way. He is just a man. You've had a diving experience and so have I. He has no ownership over God.

The Bible was written by man. Man is influenced by ego and personal bias. (It is impossible task to put God into words even without ego.)

Hell is not a permanent location. Hell (and heaven) are the two extremes of the death experience. A very traumatic death in which you are not expecting the divine and have to process a lot of ego stuff will take you to the hell domain. It is such an overwhelming experience, it feels like it will last forever - and it does, in a sense, because you are beyond time - but it is just a passage from here to there. Everybody ends up back in the arms of God. God is heaven. God is Satan. There is no other destination.

I'm not sure how you accomplished your divine experience or how far you got with it, but - as you go higher - everything merges into one.

We are all one.

Don't worry about Putin or try to save other people from hell.

There is nothing wrong in the world. Sin is simply something you will need to process when you die and you are - finally - faced with your true reflection.

Everything is exactly as it should be. Don't worry be happy now.

If you're going to do drug, use responsible.
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Likewise.

If you can hear Christ. It's not like I'm talking to you but Himself. Words will be more enhanced. You'll have a greater craving for the truth.
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Don't you see that every religion thinks that it is the only true one?

Faith revolves around believing another person when they talk about their divine experience, rather than having one yourself.

I prefer Buddha, personally. Less room for misinterpretation. Probably the reason it is the least violent mainstream religion in the world.

I would never say to you that you need Buddha to access God.

Buddha was just a man. A fat little man.
 
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 5:43‭-‬44 NIV

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Matthew 5:43-44 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you | New International Version (NIV) | Download The Bible App Now

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
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“Stop dwelling on past events and brooding over times gone by; I am doing something new; it’s springing up — can’t you see it? I am making a road in the desert, rivers in the wasteland.
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 43:18‭-‬19 CJB

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Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 43:18-19 “Stop dwelling on past events and brooding over times gone by; I am doing something new; it’s springing up — can’t you see it? I am making a road in the desert, rivers in the wasteland. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Downl

“Stop dwelling on past events and brooding over times gone by; I am doing something new; it’s springing up — can’t you see it? I am making a road in the desert, rivers in the wasteland.
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Then Yeshua told his talmidim, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him say ‘No’ to himself, take up his execution-stake, and keep following me.
Mattityahu (Mat) 16:24 CJB

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Mattityahu (Mat) 16:24 Then Yeshua told his talmidim, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him say ‘No’ to himself, take up his execution-stake, and keep following me. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

Then Yeshua told his talmidim, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him say ‘No’ to himself, take up his execution-stake, and keep following me.
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So, since we have come to be considered righteous by God because of our trust, let us continue to have shalom with God through our Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.
Romans (Rom) 5:1 CJB

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Romans (Rom) 5:1 So, since we have come to be considered righteous by God because of our trust, let us continue to have shalom with God through our Lord, Yeshua the Messiah. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

So, since we have come to be considered righteous by God because of our trust, let us continue to have shalom with God through our Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.
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Today the Prophecy has been fulfilled. DANIEL12:10
Many shall be purified and made white, and tried, but the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand. The pure will understand tho.
 
Use all the armor and weaponry that God provides, so that you will be able to stand against the deceptive tactics of the Adversary.
Ephesians (Eph) 6:11 CJB

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Ephesians (Eph) 6:11 Use all the armor and weaponry that God provides, so that you will be able to stand against the deceptive tactics of the Adversary. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

Use all the armor and weaponry that God provides, so that you will be able to stand against the deceptive tactics of the Adversary.
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